Curse

BlackSephir · Apr 16, 2008, 05:36 PM // 17:36

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they ain't gonna give you 7 heroes. How many times must it be said? How many months must go by of beating the same dead horse before you realize the horse is dead? lol

1 question- how the hell are you?
Are you AN employee? Mind-reader? Seer? Or simply Master Knightfail who knows as much or even less than the rest of us?

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Very good at least you still get the picture. No matter what the anti-socials want they don't want to entirely destroy the PUGing population or make soloing look more lucrative and easier than pugging.

How sweet, too bad his picture is kinda... crappy. Because no matter how loud he'd yell "OMG U ANTI SOCIAL", I'll still be playing with H/H.
And another thing- you're dead wrong if you think people who H/H care about PUGs or want PUGs destroyed. People who are H/Hing simply don't give a shit about pugs. Mind blowing, eh?

Last thing- I think if I used your whole person as a reason to "why not go with PUGs" it'd be pretty much understandable.

Sleeper Service · Apr 16, 2008, 06:43 PM // 18:43

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

7 Heroes would destroy what little community remains of Guild Wars. Say what you like about Ursan Blessing, but at least it puts players on almost equal footing and encourages cooperative play! That is why I actually respect Ursan Blessing. I hate how simplistic it is.

Ursan Blessing = auto win PvE

But Ursan Blessing has literally been a blessing to the PUG group. I see people playing together in record numbers again, back to the levels we saw pre Nightfall if not more! It makes me happy to see people enjoying others company. I have made several new friends in UB Clearing/Questing groups. People are much more laid back, and lots of good drops in HM areas with a lot of "gz" going around, and random chat while pressing 1,2,3 a lot. Sorry, but Ursan Blessing has been great for the community. 7 Heroes would be quite the opposite..

/opposed
/notsigned
/nevergonnahappen

you are describing a glorified chat channel not GW.

good for the community? *shrugs* huh if you say so, i certainly havent seen any improvement. If i want to play the (pve) game with you know....skills and builds and stuff I have to use H/H.

way to kill the game, if you want social interaction i heard pvp was cool.

oh wait....nvm.

Bryant Again · Apr 16, 2008, 07:05 PM // 19:05

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Sorry, but Ursan Blessing has been great for the community. 7 Heroes would be quite the opposite.

Been great for the community, but not so great for the game.

I've asked this kind of question very frequently: would people party together if it was made so that if you were in a full human party that all enemies would die in one hit of any weapon? Of course you'd see people grouping together, but at quite a cost.

I was against 7 heroes because I believed the incentive would be greater than that of the PvE skills. UB is now the exception: nothing even comes close to touching it.

Lishy · Apr 16, 2008, 07:10 PM // 19:10

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Originally Posted by Vincent320

It does sound unfair, but sometimes we crave for insane power over the game. since we've finished the

And how would a team full of elite human players with PvE skills be any weaker than 7 AI controlled heroes?At least heroes aren't imba.

Bryant Again · Apr 16, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

And how would a team full of elite human players with PvE skills be any weaker than 7 AI controlled heroes?At least heroes aren't imba.

The difference is convenience. It's much less stressful to go with a group of AI rather than spam for awhile...But it's also hard to beat the simplicity and power of UB in a human group. UB has made this balance out, and why I am now in support of 7 heroes.

(lol, "UB" and "balance" in the same sentence).

N1ghtstalker · Apr 16, 2008, 07:17 PM // 19:17

lol no i dont even want it
keep the challenge in it -.-

Dravyn · Apr 16, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39

I'm all for it, and hopefully they'll come to their senses and implement it. Better sooner than later.

Carboplatin · Apr 16, 2008, 08:01 PM // 20:01

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Been great for the community, but not so great for the game.

I've asked this kind of question very frequently: would people party together if it was made so that if you were in a full human party that all enemies would die in one hit of any weapon? Of course you'd see people grouping together, but at quite a cost.

I was against 7 heroes because I believed the incentive would be greater than that of the PvE skills. UB is now the exception: nothing even comes close to touching it.

i agree with great for community, people will now "play" together.

the game on the other hand was ruined. creativity out the window.

Master Knightfall · Apr 16, 2008, 08:21 PM // 20:21

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

1 question- how the hell are you?
Are you AN employee? Mind-reader? Seer? Or simply Master Knightfail who knows as much or even less than the rest of us?

How sweet, too bad his picture is kinda... crappy. Because no matter how loud he'd yell "OMG U ANTI SOCIAL", I'll still be playing with H/H.
And another thing- you're dead wrong if you think people who H/H care about PUGs or want PUGs destroyed. People who are H/Hing simply don't give a shit about pugs. Mind blowing, eh?

Last thing- I think if I used your whole person as a reason to "why not go with PUGs" it'd be pretty much understandable.

troll much? You really should check into an anger management course you know it makes wrinkles faster when you put on your anger face. <grin>

If they were going to implement it, they would have done it before they even started on GW2, so, you can expect nothing in the way of this until GW2 is out there and then they are still going to be wanting to improve GW2 over this retiring game. This one is old, the hype is for GW2, they may add some lil tidbits now and then to this like those weapons, but, nothing major that would require major coding nope just don't think so.

DivineEnvoy · Apr 16, 2008, 08:22 PM // 20:22

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Originally Posted by R Langdon

the game on the other hand was ruined. creativity out the window.

The moment builds were able to be shared online, creativity to making builds was already out the window, and that's quite a long time ago too.

As for seven heroes, I support it. Does anyone know how horrible the henches are in Tyria? The healer hench can't heal a fly. Just to balance out the horribleness of these henches, there are people who have to use PvE-only skills and consumables just to get pass some areas. However, with this said, didn't the developers said they won't implement seven heroes due to balance reasons? If so, why and who resurrected this thread?

Master Knightfall · Apr 16, 2008, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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who resurrected this thread?

That's always an easy answer..the dead horse beaters. Or maybe a new breed the "whack a mole" crowd?? yah think? <grin>

Bryant Again · Apr 16, 2008, 08:30 PM // 20:30

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Originally Posted by DivineEnvoy

However, with this said, didn't the developers said they won't implement seven heroes due to balance reasons? If so, why and who resurrected this thread?

Because that reason, "we won't implement them due to balance", doesn't make any sense. It didn't make any sense with PvE skills, and it makes even less sense now with UB.

That's why it's always rezzed, because no one has really came up with a good reason and the good reasons that do become brought up are usually shot down. No idea why it's never locked, though.

Chasing Squirrels · Apr 16, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49

7 hero's would make it single player game. I actually liked when the game first came out and we went through missions for the first time with full pugs.

Dravyn · Apr 16, 2008, 09:40 PM // 21:40

I didnt' like pugs the first time i played in one and I still don't. I play in guild groups, i play with my gf and six heroes, or i play alone. i dont' now, nor will I ever again, pug. So having 7 heroes makes no difference as far as whether or not those of us that want them will pug or not. It does, however, have a big impact on whether or not I will continue to play..because if I play alone it pisses me off to be handicapped with either stupid henchmen or stupid people.

warcrap · Apr 16, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16

it would be awesome but anet hates us so they will keep taunting us with 3 heroes.

Avatar Exico · Apr 16, 2008, 10:18 PM // 22:18

I dont use my heros much anymore because usually im with a Guild Group for HM dungeons or someone in my Guild wants to do something and I join him. I do make one execption that I will do pug grps with people in DoA Full Runs or UW Clear or FoW Clear that it. Everything else I do with guildies. Another execption forgot to mention with heros is that I will try out new Hero Builds for fun to see how good they are but that it honestly.

Master Knightfall · Apr 16, 2008, 10:22 PM // 22:22

I think Anet realized giving us 3 heroes was a mistake to begin with. It made soloing much easier as you can see by the people who exploit it already by having a friend join and then leave and they still get 6 heroes. It was a lot harder in the old days with just the henchies can you imagine playing through hard mode everywhere with just henchies now? Has anybody even tried that in all the campaigns and expansion just henchies?

As far as the difference of UB and 7 heroes it still comes down that UB requires 7 other real life players whereas if you play with 7 heroes only you would have UB. Thus it still makes playing in live groups more lucrative than everybody soloing. As it is the 7 hero side says they can beat the game with 3 heroes thus showing that 7 heroes aren't a required resource of the game. So Anet responds in like mind that you can already beat the game with 3 heroes and the other henchies there is no reason to waste time and resources giving you 7.

CagedinSanity · Apr 16, 2008, 10:29 PM // 22:29

Not everyone plays with people. Not everyone plays with just H/H.

Implementing this would help the people who like to solo and allow people who prefer people-parties to move on their merry way.

Wenspire · Apr 16, 2008, 11:08 PM // 23:08

IMO, the game does not need to be made any easier than it already is. We have consumables, PvE skills and three heroes.

Gone are the days when GW was a challenge; going through the Crystal Desert with only one Monk hench available, trying the Galrath quest even at level 20, etc...

Just my $0.02...

CagedinSanity · Apr 16, 2008, 11:14 PM // 23:14

Blah, excessive difficulty in prophecies is the reason why I was entirely too happy to get Gwen, Factions, and NF, just so I never have to touch the desert or jungle ever again.